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| Ranger wrote: | | Completed at last this "kiddie" because of DM's etc. from. When compared to other sports but a joke anyway. Since almost everyone takes with a cup, or he drives, wins, and there is no master. |
Absolutely!
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In this way one makes sure the sport is not popular. Then laugh so an observer from another sport that is dead ldiglich "pseudo-fuss" for titles and championships, of which there en masse, even though each only a few starters are there. In most cases you do here the pants larger than the A. ... is. |
Correct!
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Let the chariot race, what they should actually be: Training race, nice meeting and fun. Who needs a title can indeed then found a new club, which is separated again, etc. etc. and the game starts from scratch .. |
When you stimulate it, you'll find a 100%, the counters with the sponsors, without which there can be no one event. The argument: many viewers = many sponsors. Spectators come but only where spectacle is. So we call all the German championship and you keep the cash.
Anyone who thinks so has not understood how eg. Festivals operate. At a village festival, there are usually no more than drinks and food, perhaps, but not always, nor a chapel. These are wars and folks still there.
They will not accept that go for the big race, the Black folks because of the sport? They want to <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlittenhund" title="Wiki Schlittenhunde" class="extern"> <i> sled </ i see> </ a>, who want a Bratwurst eat and drink a beer.
This may be extremely frustrating for one or the other self-styled super athlete, but so is running the show.
The spectators of a sled dog race come for the spectacle but not because they want to see a multiple master. Most get the results but not with it and simply not interested.
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Seduces me the whole nu a weary smile. If you are dealing with real adult?? Such a thing is probably only in Germany: Arguing, isolate, establish critical of their own association, to protest ..... Rather than use the time to, as mentioned above, enjoy a leisurely weekend with your peers in a relaxed competition. |
Very well said! |
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Nov 13, 2009 - 09:24 AM |
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| Quote: | @ Leo: that's what. when I offer people a DM, it must be according to dignity. ie, that the best German start.
it remains bound to the left, as he does it. he can do depends on eg the start authorization for the participation of EM etc. etc. at the dm whether it makes sense again is another question. |
Then I'll give you right. The organizers have that with the DM certainly presented differently.
| Quote: | | what is certainly bad, is that a DM will be awarded to a new race destinations. Although the motivation here is the promoter probably greater degree of familiarity but low. |
Can I explain the times anyone?? Either I'm going to DM because I want to drive the DM, or I'm going to a new race because I'm curious or wants to now support people, or because Neah is ....
But I can tell no one stand up and say that some mushers neee ", so I will go DM already, but Ingolstadt, which I know not. Since I drive only did not even better."
Apart from that no known race destinations has applied for the car-DM.
| Quote: | | Perhaps the VDSV should just pick a good time consultant tells how to make things. it's all in other countries. |
I therefore would like but please do not pay higher contributions to fund a consultant. There, there, as in politics! If one of the collective knowledge of members (represented here using the forum) by such requests and provide good suggestions, do not mount in the forum but where they belong, that certainly works. Also in other countries. |
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Nov 13, 2009 - 09:31 AM |
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| Quote: | When you stimulate it, you'll find a 100%, the counters with the sponsors, without which there can be no one event. The argument: many viewers = many sponsors. Spectators come but only where spectacle is. So we call all the German championship and you keep the cash.
Anyone who thinks so has not understood how eg. Festivals operate. At a village festival, there are usually no more than drinks and food, perhaps, but not always, nor a chapel. These are wars and folks still there.
They will not accept that go for the big race, the Black folks because of the sport? They want to <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlittenhund" title="Wiki Schlittenhunde" class="extern"> <i> sled </ i see> </ a>, who want a Bratwurst eat and drink a beer.
This may be extremely frustrating for one or the other self-styled super athlete, but so is running the show.
The spectators of a sled dog race come for the spectacle but not because they want to see a multiple master. Most get the results but not with it and simply not interested. |
A village festival in which the whole village just ONE has motivated with an exotic weekend thingy as a <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlittenhunderennen" title="Wiki Schlittenhunderennen" class="extern"> <i> Sled Dog Race </ i> </ a> (not to compare without snow), is a bit naive.
In order to attract many people, it needs a central race destinations. But yes Ingolstadt knew none of the mushers, so indeed are a lot of viewers have been, but no musher. And yes, too many viewers it should be according to BlackDog yes again not to be .... 
The results of less interest to the audience, though some have asked in Ingolstadt, if they could stay for the awards ceremony. But if you're so good, you can be sure next time your "training show with fun and loose in the wood market competition" to sponsors and viewers.
There was only one application to car-DM. Go for next year but the second?
You know, there are many really criticize very large. The criticism will lose weight but if you want to know that the critics can not even make it better /. |
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Nov 13, 2009 - 09:52 AM |
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A village festival in which the whole village just ONE has motivated with an exotic weekend thingy as a <a href="http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schlittenhunderennen" title="Wiki Schlittenhunderennen" class="extern"> <i> Sled Dog Race </ i> </ a> (not to compare without snow), is a bit naive .. |
Why? Are we heading to many viewers = many sponsors = more opportunities for the organizers? Or it is about the great sport?
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In order to attract many people, it needs a central race destinations. But yes Ingolstadt knew none of the mushers, so indeed are a lot of viewers have been, but no musher. And yes, too many viewers it should be according to BlackDog yes again not to be .... |
Centrally located, like for example what place? Dobel shows how central it must be to attract viewers.
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But if you're so good, you can be sure next time your "training show with fun and loose in the wood market competition" to sponsors and viewers. |
Now, with noble, great competition, it has been tried and it failed. Or?
Because of me, there must be neither car nor car-racing championships. I consider this anyway for dementia.
To know what brings viewers would have a market here. One would have to consult the people. But one thing I can tell you directly and without any analysis: the sport is not. For, quite seriously: how much of the race gets to the viewer? He looks away and teams arrive. Off.
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There was only one application to car-DM. Go for next year but the second?
You know, there are many really criticize very large. The criticism will lose weight but if you want to know that the critics can not even make it better /. |
I criticize only the claim of many mushers who believe their sport would have the rank on par with the Football League or Formula One. |
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Jet, you are speaking to me from the heart: ".... many believe their sport is on a par with the League or the Fomel one. "
Hi: The Dog Sledding is an Randspotart and will remain a fringe sport! Who wants to Rampénlicht, the major sponsors, etc., which must now be just Bundesliga player or Formula One drivers.
What is critical here, some do not, the event itself, but that one little fooling themselves massacred each other by Konkurrenzschüren and after many years still believes to market the sled dog sport, "" how big sports. Every one wants small marble-club sponsors and have attracted many viewers. But you can not share the cake a thousand times. There are already too many events on weekends. and as the outsiders just thinking, where the shortest arrival, where he is offered money for his most spectacular. And in turn, other events can just better than the Huskies sports, and in turn must not annoy us, but I can live with. I do not need no spectacle and sensationalism for ever higher and faster (and my dog is certainly not determine !!!!).
So: Who, after so many years still does not see that the Sponsoren-/Zuschauerpotenzial is exhausted, then, is to halt further muddle, grumble, complain and maybe even despair! |
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Hi Ranger
You're right, it is a minor sport. The scenario is not that you can not make such events for spectators and mushers interesting. There will always remain a fringe sport, so we must not hide but rather we should positively presenting. I for one am going to race cars because I am familiar faces widerzusehen. I admit that I too would prefer to drive in the snow - but if that is in short supply here in the North just have to know how to get on just different - chariot races. Of these, there are also the events that can be commercialized quite positive to see you on the following links.
http://www.ssv-suedoldenburg.de/ssvs-se ... index2.htm
http://www.em-rastede.de/contrexx/CMS_D ... ? Caching = 0
http://www.ssv-suedoldenburg.de/index.php?page=549
All this would not be a self-promotion, but also to illustrate the car racing can be shown quite positive. And by the way - who claims the car races are worth nothing and see the mushers no attention, which should nevertheless ask once why traveling over 300 starters from 19 nations to a European Championship in Germany even though they had in their home countries even in the snow can train. |
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Nov 13, 2009 - 11:36 AM |
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| Quote: | | why travel over 300 starters from 19 nations to a European Championship in Germany even though they had in their home countries already on the snow can train. |
I think the importance of EM is still different from that of a DM
Maybe it's just smoke but still the fact that the association is new, there was previously a 2x DM, of which the DSSV then there was also a German master rr.
Even the VDSV will learn from this year and draw his own conclusions.
Actually, it would be good if the brood club, the place and date for the next DM would now have been determined, it could be all that into account. |
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| Leo wrote: | | Quote: | When you stimulate it, you'll find a 100%, the counters with the sponsors, without which there can be no one event. The argument: many viewers = many sponsors. Spectators come but only where spectacle is. So we call all the German championship and you keep the cash.
Anyone who thinks so has not understood how eg. Festivals operate. At a village festival, there are usually no more than drinks and food, perhaps, but not always, nor a chapel. These are wars and folks still there.
They will not accept that go for the big race, the Black folks because of the sport? They want to sled dogs to see who want to eat a bratwurst and a beer drinking.
This may be extremely frustrating for one or the other self-styled super athlete, but so is running the show.
The spectators of a sled dog race come for the spectacle but not because they want to see a multiple master. Most get the results but not with it and simply not interested. |
A village festival in which the whole village just ONE has motivated with an exotic weekend thingy like a sled dog race (at that) to compare without snow, is a bit naive.
In order to attract many people, it needs a central race destinations. But yes Ingolstadt knew none of the mushers, so indeed are a lot of viewers have been, but no musher. And yes, too many viewers it should be according to BlackDog yes again not to be ....
The results of less interest to the audience, though some have asked in Ingolstadt, if they could stay for the awards ceremony. But if you're so good, you can be sure next time your "training show with fun and loose in the wood market competition" to sponsors and viewers.
There was only one application to car-DM. Go for next year but the second?
You know, there are many really criticize very large. The criticism will lose weight but if you want to know that the critics can not even make it better /. |
Morning Leo,
But now let times Ingolstadt from the game.
We talk but mostly by general guidelines.
Greeting RR |
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Nov 13, 2009 - 12:53 PM |
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You're right, it is a minor sport. The scenario is not that you can not make such events for spectators and mushers interesting. There will always remain a fringe sport, so we must not hide but rather we should positively presenting. I for one am going to race cars because I am familiar faces widerzusehen. I admit that I too would prefer to drive in the snow - however if that is with us in the north just short supply, you should know to help hold different - race car .. |
Between what you write and what some claim are worlds apart.
Of course you can organize a race car so it was worth for all stakeholders to participate.
10 years ago, the Huskies had just sports High. You could have a race at the A **** the world and could not be sure that we had 70-80 starter, usually much more.
Those days are over, and some have still not understood. If whining, it's because organizers were spoiled in the past compared to today. Whatever was the nature of the stake-out, no matter how bad the track was, whether spectators were there or not, it was reported. Today all small rolls and bake as you consider three times where you drive and you drive maybe not every weekend but only one time per month. The shrinking of the race destinations has already begun.
There will always be race destinations, Todtmoos is one other crusts one on which it draws many participants and there will be race destinations, which next year will no longer stand in the calendar.
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All this would not be a self-promotion, but also to illustrate the car racing can be shown quite positive. And by the way - who claims the car races are worth nothing and see the mushers no attention, which should nevertheless ask once why traveling over 300 starters from 19 nations to a European Championship in Germany even though they had in their home countries even in the snow can train. |
The 300 starters are starters but mainly in Cross, Bikejöring and Co, is it?
That's something else. Without wanting to belittle it. |
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Nov 13, 2009 - 01:33 PM |
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I will of course not simply abolish the chariot races. I am only against the so-called "championship" 8The ultimately are not real!).
Races such as scabs, running Rastede etc. have their merits, are well organized and spectators alike. It would also be nice if a few more places like crusts, could establish the course etc.. I do not begrudge us all nothing more than that. But please let the Zinober and disputes with the pseudo-championships. That is really silly! |
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